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Posted by buffythecatslayer
#851

I still like my idea better.  Instead of a lanyard, you get a three foot length of chain.

Like the Maester chains in GoT.  Imagine going through your life with 5-10lbs of chain around your neck. :-)

Posted by raidkillsbugsded buffythecatslayer
#852

buffythecatslayer wrote:
I still like my idea better.  Instead of a lanyard, you get a three foot length of chain.

Like the Maester chains in GoT.  Imagine going through your life with 5-10lbs of chain around your neck. :-)


Wait, you mean you don’t already?

Mayhaps we can just get a really big forehead tattoo that can be scanned from several feet away.  A big sign around our necks would just be silly.  

I’m also picturing a lone table in an ICC side room with like 8  people sitting in chairs spaced out along the walls yelling instructions out to the Gamemaster at the table.  It’s ridiculous enough for me to want to play, even if it’s Monopoly or Risk.  “No 6’s!!!!  Yeah, just go ahead scatter everything off the board and onto the floor for me, sir.”

Posted by loeil
#853

Social distancing is almost impossible at gencon.
just look at the vendor hall, the food court, the gaming tables, the bus shuttles, the hotels...
and we don’t even take into account if publishers will come, some of them are from countries with no fly law due to covid...
the only way i see gencon happening is if that whole pandemic is over or nearly over and not just in usa but overall 

Posted by lehane lore seeker
#854

father bloodlust wrote:
I was looking on the Paizo boards for some clues as to whether Paizo would be at Gen Con 2020, and COO Jeff Alvarez posted this interesting economic fact about Gen Con's impact on Indy:
"Gen Con brings in over $70M in business for the city of Indy and for comparison, that's more business than all the Colts home games generate, so having or canceling this show will have huge ramifications for both Gen Con, as well as the restaurants and hotels in DT Indy."
Never knew about those numbers, but they're pretty eye-opening.
This is why the Governor or the Mayor will hold off as long as possible before banning Gencon from happening. Way too economically important to the voters who will decide if they get another term in office. 

It is also like I said, it will be easier to cancel an event close to time for it than to cancel it way in advance and have to get if started again if the worst doesn't come to pass. 

Which is why we are stuck doing the hardest thing of all: Waiting.

Posted by stahlnee dballing
#855

dballing wrote:
raidkillsbugsded wrote:
stahlnee wrote:
lehane wrote:
I don't see electronic badges on smart phones working. One you wouldn't have an easily seen badge to display going around the con. Then think of the event staff checking badges going into the exhibit hall. 
And if you phone's battery goes out...
View of badges takes folks to less than 6 foot distance.

Not if you make the badges the size of a stop sign. You just have to think outside the box, right?   We can all walk around looking like Flavor Flav...Yeah, Boi!!!!!   

You now get personalized T-Shirts with a QR code on the front. One for each day of your badge, each uniquely QR-coded to a given day (so no cheating).
 
You missed the point. Convention security has to change to allow distance.

Convention center security is such that they restrict doors and funnel traffic such that you are always within 3 feet of a security person when they check your badge. Think about how only part of the doors to the exhibit hall are opened. Think about the escalator to the underpassage to the stadium is choked through a 3 foot wide path. etc.

Posted by stahlnee lehane
#856

lehane wrote:
father bloodlust wrote:
I was looking on the Paizo boards for some clues as to whether Paizo would be at Gen Con 2020, and COO Jeff Alvarez posted this interesting economic fact about Gen Con's impact on Indy:
"Gen Con brings in over $70M in business for the city of Indy and for comparison, that's more business than all the Colts home games generate, so having or canceling this show will have huge ramifications for both Gen Con, as well as the restaurants and hotels in DT Indy."
Never knew about those numbers, but they're pretty eye-opening.
This is why the Governor or the Mayor will hold off as long as possible before banning Gencon from happening. Way too economically important to the voters who will decide if they get another term in office. It is also like I said, it will be easier to cancel an event close to time for it than to cancel it way in advance and have to get if started again if the worst doesn't come to pass. 
Which is why we are stuck doing the hardest thing of all: Waiting.
They should show up in support of GenCon due to the economic impact.

Posted by lore seeker stahlnee
#857

stahlnee wrote:
lehane wrote:
father bloodlust wrote:
I was looking on the Paizo boards for some clues as to whether Paizo would be at Gen Con 2020, and COO Jeff Alvarez posted this interesting economic fact about Gen Con's impact on Indy:
"Gen Con brings in over $70M in business for the city of Indy and for comparison, that's more business than all the Colts home games generate, so having or canceling this show will have huge ramifications for both Gen Con, as well as the restaurants and hotels in DT Indy."
Never knew about those numbers, but they're pretty eye-opening.
This is why the Governor or the Mayor will hold off as long as possible before banning Gencon from happening. Way too economically important to the voters who will decide if they get another term in office. It is also like I said, it will be easier to cancel an event close to time for it than to cancel it way in advance and have to get if started again if the worst doesn't come to pass. 
Which is why we are stuck doing the hardest thing of all: Waiting.
They should show up in support of GenCon due to the economic impact.
That would be nice. It'd certainly be a nice shot of hope that Gen Con will happen.

Posted by hahnarama
#858

Well looking at The Colts schd vs ICC availability Oct 22-25  looks promising for a Fall the schd date 

Posted by del_grande hahnarama
#859

hahnarama wrote:
Well looking at The Colts schd vs ICC availability Oct 22-25  looks promising for a Fall the schd date 

Labor Day weekend could also be an option - the Colts have away games scheduled for that weekend and the ones before and after it

Posted by donaldbain hahnarama
#860

hahnarama wrote:
Well looking at The Colts schd vs ICC availability Oct 22-25  looks promising for a Fall the schd date 
Eleven days after Origins?  That could be hard on the big companies that do both and the the smaller vendors as well.  It'd force a good number of people to choose between the two I'd wager. 

Posted by lore seeker del_grande
#861

del_grande wrote:
hahnarama wrote:
Well looking at The Colts schd vs ICC availability Oct 22-25  looks promising for a Fall the schd date 

Labor Day weekend could also be an option - the Colts have away games scheduled for that weekend and the ones before and after it

Dragon Con's that weekend as well, though I don't know how much competition there would be between the two cons.

Posted by hahnarama donaldbain
#862

donaldbain wrote:
hahnarama wrote:
Well looking at The Colts schd vs ICC availability Oct 22-25  looks promising for a Fall the schd date 
Eleven days after Origins?  That could be hard on the big companies that do both and the the smaller vendors as well.  It'd force a good number of people to choose between the two I'd wager. 

Hey we're living in a *censored* storm.  Who knows if GC decides they won't use Lucas Oil for event space you could hold it on a home game weekend. Who knows what the hotel situation/priority would be

Posted by roderick
#863

Please keep the language suitable for a 'G' rating. 

Roderick Robertson
Forum Coordinator 
Gen Con, LLC. 

Posted by rfsullivan stahlnee
#864

stahlnee wrote:
dballing wrote:
raidkillsbugsded wrote:
stahlnee wrote:
lehane wrote:
I don't see electronic badges on smart phones working. One you wouldn't have an easily seen badge to display going around the con. Then think of the event staff checking badges going into the exhibit hall. 
And if you phone's battery goes out...
View of badges takes folks to less than 6 foot distance.

Not if you make the badges the size of a stop sign. You just have to think outside the box, right?   We can all walk around looking like Flavor Flav...Yeah, Boi!!!!!   

You now get personalized T-Shirts with a QR code on the front. One for each day of your badge, each uniquely QR-coded to a given day (so no cheating).
You missed the point. Convention security has to change to allow distance.Convention center security is such that they restrict doors and funnel traffic such that you are always within 3 feet of a security person when they check your badge. Think about how only part of the doors to the exhibit hall are opened. Think about the escalator to the underpassage to the stadium is choked through a 3 foot wide path. etc.

Regarding security checkpoints, one could take a page from the Costco playbook and put up a clear, rigid plastic screen between the security person and the line. Funnel the crowd down, mark off spaces on the approach to indicate proper distance, and have them hold their badge up to the screen before passing through. 

Posted by stahlnee rfsullivan
#865

rfsullivan wrote:
stahlnee wrote:
dballing wrote:
raidkillsbugsded wrote:
stahlnee wrote:
lehane wrote:
I don't see electronic badges on smart phones working. One you wouldn't have an easily seen badge to display going around the con. Then think of the event staff checking badges going into the exhibit hall. 
And if you phone's battery goes out...
View of badges takes folks to less than 6 foot distance.

Not if you make the badges the size of a stop sign. You just have to think outside the box, right?   We can all walk around looking like Flavor Flav...Yeah, Boi!!!!!   

You now get personalized T-Shirts with a QR code on the front. One for each day of your badge, each uniquely QR-coded to a given day (so no cheating).
You missed the point. Convention security has to change to allow distance.Convention center security is such that they restrict doors and funnel traffic such that you are always within 3 feet of a security person when they check your badge. Think about how only part of the doors to the exhibit hall are opened. Think about the escalator to the underpassage to the stadium is choked through a 3 foot wide path. etc.

Regarding security checkpoints, one could take a page from the Costco playbook and put up a clear, rigid plastic screen between the security person and the line. Funnel the crowd down, mark off spaces on the approach to indicate proper distance, and have them hold their badge up to the screen before passing through. 
How many people can this support per hour? Say 3 seconds per person would give 1200 per hour or 600 each way. Be interesting in seeing how many checkpoints would be needed to support the number of attendees.

Posted by mythicfox stahlnee
#866

stahlnee wrote:
rfsullivan wrote:Regarding security checkpoints, one could take a page from the Costco playbook and put up a clear, rigid plastic screen between the security person and the line. Funnel the crowd down, mark off spaces on the approach to indicate proper distance, and have them hold their badge up to the screen before passing through. 
How many people can this support per hour? Say 3 seconds per person would give 1200 per hour or 600 each way. Be interesting in seeing how many checkpoints would be needed to support the number of attendees.

You'd probably need dedicated entrances and exits for the Exhibit Hall, as well, and maybe an occupancy limit. It'd wind up looking like a bigger version of how Fantasy Flight used to do their booth.

I don't even want to think about how long the morning rush would take.

Posted by hahnarama
#867

Little children, boys & girls gather round and let me tell a  tale of 2020 and how Gen Con and the World were caught in a Fecal Tsunami....

Posted by cyrill hahnarama
#868

Posted by cyrill
#869

The sooner they cancel Gen Con, the sooner we can hopefully get refunds from Marriott.

It’s a lost cause 

Posted by rfsullivan hahnarama
#870

hahnarama wrote:
Little children, boys & girls gather round and let me tell a  tale of 2020 and how Gen Con and the World were caught in a Fecal Tsunami....

Now that you mention it, as long as we're talking about the adjustments needed to run GC in 2020, is there a Murder Hornet action plan? They could issue flamethrowers and Taurus Judge revolvers for the staff.

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